Yamaha Styles & Ketron Styles

[rikkisbears]

Hi Dan,
have a  question.

The PSR S710 styles , are they factory standard or have you also tweaked them up to work with SD2?  (I sort of won't be able to tell till my SD2 arrives)

With Yamaha styles,  as far as the  Note Transposition settings go, does it matter which tracks ( for instruments 1 to 5 )
are used for rhythmic chords and  for pads, (ie the tracks that have to be based on cmaj7th chords)
and which tracks can be used for arpeggio's & phrases ie notes like c,d,e,g,a &b

I've just been brushing up on my old yammie manual.
ie I noticed in EMC style convert, instruments 1 & 2 have chord setting. 3 pad , 4 & 5 phrases.

Basically are there any restrictions.  I'm planning to edit some of my styles.

best wishes
Rikki

[Dan]

Hi Rikki,

The PSR S710 styles are factory standard.

On the OPTIONS/MIDI PORTS  you can select for your MIDI OUT if it is GM/GM2/GS/XG/KETRON SD2

If you select Ketron SD2, the style engine is adapting the Yamaha styles, so it will sound good on the SD2.

A lot of work where done for that realtime tweaking. (sound selection, drums mapping, megavoice, guitar and bass noises adaptation...)

If you select XG mode, you will get almost no conversion. Just megavoices , and guitar and bass noises .

vArranger adapt the arranger to the Note transposition settings present in the CASM settings of the style.

There is no restrictions.

If you think something could be improved, let me know

[rikkisbears]

Hi Dan,
I am having a bit of a problem with that piano orch style I sent you.

I must admit I've never noticed that in Yamaha, you appear to be able to have 2 different casm settings for the same style track.
I just put it thru the casm edit program you have on site.

Track 4    has  the piano root note for the arpeggio.
Track 12  has  the  the rest of the notes.

Both these tracks end up playing back as instrument 1, but they have completely different settings NTR, NTT, RTR.

Wondering if this is what's causing the playback of this track not to be 100% correct.

I know I had some hassles when I converted it to korg .

[Dan]

Yamaha styles, can record up to 16 tracks, mixed down to the 8 arrangers tracks. This is often used in Yamaha styles that 2 tracks with different NTR, NTT, RTR settings are played with the same instruments, in 2 different ranges of the keyboard.

By the way, tell me what notes are sounding bad to your ears ?  (variation, track, chord...)

[rikkisbears]

Hi Dan,
thank you for the explanation, it's "in the 2 different ranges of the keyboard" that I hadn't known about.

It's actually playing correct notes for whatever the chord is, just not  in the correct order in the arpeggio.

If one was listening to it in a fully orchestrated style with all the tracks playing, it  wouldn't be noticeable, , but in the PianoOrch style which is just strings and piano arpeggio, it is.

There's another one I use in my psr1500 styles ( also in the s710 ) that isn't quite correct either.

I'll try & work out what the arpeggio pattern should be, & what it's actually playing .

No big deal, it probably affects only very , very few styles, I may be able to edit style so it plays back correctly. 

Yamaha styles, can record up to 16 tracks, mixed down to the 8 arrangers tracks. This is often used in Yamaha styles that 2 tracks with different NTR, NTT, RTR settings are played with the same instruments, in 2 different ranges of the keyboard.

By the way, tell me what notes are sounding bad to your ears ?  (variation, track, chord...)

[Dan]

Maybe have a look at the NTR setting.

ROOT FIXED: The note is kept as close as possible to the previous note
range. For example, the notes C3, E3, and G3 in the key
of C will become C3, F3, and A3 when transposed to F.
Use this setting for chordal parts.

If you want the note order of your arpeggio to be preserved use NTR TRANS